Neale Donald Walsch is cracking me up. I like the man, and respect him, and truly appreciate what he has brought and continues to bring to humanity. But he's cracking me up lately. I'm trying to help him become aware of the disconnect with his own books that he is promoting. I think it is important. Maybe not. Anyway...
Neale has lately been promoting involvement in traditional American politics as a necessary means of demonstrating our spirituality. He implies that if one is NOT being traditionally political with him that one is only pretending to be spiritual. Something like that.
I tried to point out to him that the very basis of his call to politics goes against the grain of the message of CwG as I understand it. His first reply to me dwelt prominently with things Neale does NOT like about our world, and how political involvement is the only true spiritual means to change the world. "Non-political spirituality" is pretend spirituality, and apathy. "Sitting on the sidelines of life" he called it. He went on to say that Jesus and Buddha and Martin Luther King - three fairly peaceful role models - had all "railed against"the political establishment of their times. The implication was that we should too, or we are somehow lesser than...
Neale seems to be a big fan of Esther Hicks and her discussions of the Law of Attraction. I am familiar with Ms. Hicks through The Secret, a book and DVD movie about something that is not really secret. But it's a stunning book and movie. Quite practical, and I love most all of Esther's insights.
I pointed out that Esther indicates that when we see what we do not want and shout NO at it (ie "rail against" it), that we are actually lining up more of the same for ourselves.
I said that I had yet to find a "Say yes" side of any import when looking at traditional "media driven" politics . Neale told me that one existed, and invited me to find it. He told me that the difference between he and me was that he was very much into this "say yes" approach - his "New Spirituality" that is going to change the world through politics.
Today I went to his beliefnet weblog and was initially surprised to find what Neale had posted. Here is a link to that post:
http://blog.beliefnet.com/conversationswithgod/2007/08/oh-youre-not-going-to-start-qu.html
Here is my response, which you will also find in the comments section at his post:
Neale,
Forgive me for being so slow, but yet again I do not understand your desire to utilize politics to work against something you say you do not want.
From your post:
"When will those who call themselves "spiritual" stand up to our world's political leaders (if not to say, its despots) and simply say, 'No! In a civilized society, no. We are not going to condone violence as a means of producing peace. And certainly not pre-emptive violence."
Esther Hicks, as I pointed out the other day on the CwG blog, speaks to this very directly in "The Secret". I imagine she also does this in her works. Neale I know you are a big fan of Esther and her Law of Attraction message as you keep suggesting we read her books.
Within the first few minutes of the movie she says "And when you are looking at something you do not want and you shout 'No!' at it, you are actually not pushing it away. Instead you are lining up the very thought of what you do not want and now Law of Attraction is lining those things up for you also."
At about the 32:00 mark in The Secret Esther says:
"Most people offer the majority of their thought in response to what they are observing. You see, if you are just looking at what is then you're just thinking about what is.
And when you think about what is the Law of Attraction gives you more of it. And then if you just observe what is then you're just thinking about what is.
And when you think about what is, the Law of Attraction gives you more of it. And then if you just observe what is... We've been over this, haven't we?"
I suggest that IF one is going to be involved in bettering the affairs of the world, THEN it is every bit as spiritual to approach those affairs from a vantage point other than what you keep referring to as political.
As Esther says "You have to find a way that you are approaching "what is" from a different vantage point."
Thanks for being here.
Dance In the Moment,
Greg Allen
www.GraspingAtLaws.net
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Tuesday, July 17, 2007
It's Time That Time Was Overthrown
I'm really looking forward to the release of my new CD titled It's Time That Time Was Overthrown. Working with Jeff Romano as engineer and producer has been a wonderful, inspiring and educational experience. I've engaged Browning Porter to do the package design and layout, and he took some of the photos we'll use. I like his cover and back photo ideas - it's shaping up nicely.
Jeff will mix and master and I am asking Rodney Mills Master House in Duluth, GA to put the finishing touches on it. I went to visit them and explain the SongSharing and related REM and Dolly Parton connection to the CD, and ask for some TLC from them. They are nice folks - we are excited about working with them. Rodney Mills dot com.
Great trip to Athens, GA to visit studios. Played a few senior home SongSharing On Tour shows, and also an open mic. Met some great Athens musicians, one of whom joined me at a senior show the next morning. Great vibe in that town!
I'm working on my first book, which will accompany the CD, and am actively seeking a publisher / distributor for the combo. Some of the lyrics will accompany the CD, along with whatever babble I come up with - I promise to keep it intelligent & inspiring... ;^)
The book will be titled Is It "I Am" or Is It "I Ain't", a direct question to pretty much everyone except Eckhart Tollé, the R.E.M. folks, Billy Joel, and a not-too-large handful of others. It's mostly directed at everyone that professes to be concerned for a better future.
Many of the "new spiritualists" - sadly, because they have taught me so much - are at the front of the current pack. They are right there in the running with the theists, the atheists, the news media, the administration, and all the other "look-over-there-sayers". The so-called "new" spiritualists have page after page dedicated to the fervent, ever-swelling discussion of what I call "there, them and then". The question mostly goes like this: "What is an enlightened society (there) going to look like (then) and how will enlightened beings (them) interact there, then?"
I understand the question as far as questions between humans go. I am down with it's historical significance and even utility.
But my understanding of the basis of new spiritual thinking is more along the lines of now-thinking. Eckhrt Tollé nails it best of the modern new-thinkers.
At a deeper level I suggest is is about Unity - Unity within Duality to be specific...
Here's the deal - we need a language shift. Our language, even that used by "new thinkers", tends to reinforce the conventions of separation - primarily that there is other, separated by time and distance.
We know, and all spiritual messages seek to remind us, that we are all "one", all "of the same source" - Einstein demonstrated that time and distance are aspects of relative existence - necessary to establish a multitude of points of view. He also pointed out that all points of view are necessary to establish the existence of a universe as we know it, and all points of view are equally considerable as "central to it all".
So the other day I go to a "new spirituality" site & read an interesting question someone has proposed. They were of course asking for other points of view, and I read some very nicely considered and elaborated responses. I offered one of my own that seemed to strike a chord of understanding with some readers.
When I visited hours later I was a bit taken back to see that someone had summarized literally pages of these well considered responses into the black and white of "well it looks like most of the position A folks were not convinced to change over to position B..."
I commented that I respectfully thought they must not have understood my response if they felt I was a lifelong subscriber to either position. Well, I was and was not surprised when they responded to tell me that I was correct. They had not even read my post they proudly told me - almost a taunt it seemed. "Of course I did not understand you."
I chuckled and realized that websites are after all websites, and anyone with a computer... To paraphrase a car business line, somewhere there's a loose nut between the keyboard and the operator's seat...
It truly is time to overthrow time and all sorts of concepts that go with it, like later this will be better.
For cryin' out loud y'all... you know there is only now.
Now-Thinking calls for Now-Language - language that unifies "I" with"Other" and "Then" with "Now"
I already coined the word Then-Now in my new song Time O.T., due out on the new CD soon.
More words are needed.
More blog to come.
Anybody read the Conversations with God books by Neale Donald Walsch?? I think I am going to one of his seminars - he asks a lot of questions I might remind him of answers to... I have been meaning to meet him.
Peace y'all.
Dance In The Moment,
Greg
Jeff will mix and master and I am asking Rodney Mills Master House in Duluth, GA to put the finishing touches on it. I went to visit them and explain the SongSharing and related REM and Dolly Parton connection to the CD, and ask for some TLC from them. They are nice folks - we are excited about working with them. Rodney Mills dot com.
Great trip to Athens, GA to visit studios. Played a few senior home SongSharing On Tour shows, and also an open mic. Met some great Athens musicians, one of whom joined me at a senior show the next morning. Great vibe in that town!
I'm working on my first book, which will accompany the CD, and am actively seeking a publisher / distributor for the combo. Some of the lyrics will accompany the CD, along with whatever babble I come up with - I promise to keep it intelligent & inspiring... ;^)
The book will be titled Is It "I Am" or Is It "I Ain't", a direct question to pretty much everyone except Eckhart Tollé, the R.E.M. folks, Billy Joel, and a not-too-large handful of others. It's mostly directed at everyone that professes to be concerned for a better future.
Many of the "new spiritualists" - sadly, because they have taught me so much - are at the front of the current pack. They are right there in the running with the theists, the atheists, the news media, the administration, and all the other "look-over-there-sayers". The so-called "new" spiritualists have page after page dedicated to the fervent, ever-swelling discussion of what I call "there, them and then". The question mostly goes like this: "What is an enlightened society (there) going to look like (then) and how will enlightened beings (them) interact there, then?"
I understand the question as far as questions between humans go. I am down with it's historical significance and even utility.
But my understanding of the basis of new spiritual thinking is more along the lines of now-thinking. Eckhrt Tollé nails it best of the modern new-thinkers.
At a deeper level I suggest is is about Unity - Unity within Duality to be specific...
Here's the deal - we need a language shift. Our language, even that used by "new thinkers", tends to reinforce the conventions of separation - primarily that there is other, separated by time and distance.
We know, and all spiritual messages seek to remind us, that we are all "one", all "of the same source" - Einstein demonstrated that time and distance are aspects of relative existence - necessary to establish a multitude of points of view. He also pointed out that all points of view are necessary to establish the existence of a universe as we know it, and all points of view are equally considerable as "central to it all".
So the other day I go to a "new spirituality" site & read an interesting question someone has proposed. They were of course asking for other points of view, and I read some very nicely considered and elaborated responses. I offered one of my own that seemed to strike a chord of understanding with some readers.
When I visited hours later I was a bit taken back to see that someone had summarized literally pages of these well considered responses into the black and white of "well it looks like most of the position A folks were not convinced to change over to position B..."
I commented that I respectfully thought they must not have understood my response if they felt I was a lifelong subscriber to either position. Well, I was and was not surprised when they responded to tell me that I was correct. They had not even read my post they proudly told me - almost a taunt it seemed. "Of course I did not understand you."
I chuckled and realized that websites are after all websites, and anyone with a computer... To paraphrase a car business line, somewhere there's a loose nut between the keyboard and the operator's seat...
It truly is time to overthrow time and all sorts of concepts that go with it, like later this will be better.
For cryin' out loud y'all... you know there is only now.
Now-Thinking calls for Now-Language - language that unifies "I" with"Other" and "Then" with "Now"
I already coined the word Then-Now in my new song Time O.T., due out on the new CD soon.
More words are needed.
More blog to come.
Anybody read the Conversations with God books by Neale Donald Walsch?? I think I am going to one of his seminars - he asks a lot of questions I might remind him of answers to... I have been meaning to meet him.
Peace y'all.
Dance In The Moment,
Greg
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